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Discussion for Today
[edit]- This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025_January_10
January 10
[edit]NEW NOMINATIONS
[edit]Category:Video games with custom soundtrack support
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This is a non-"defining" trait. All articles I checked in the category do not even mention this feature, nevertheless in such a way that "defines" the game or would warrant inclusion in the lede. No change in the five years since the last discussion. Games like Audiosurf and Musika are covered by the (strangely titled) Category:Music generated games and do not need this custom soundtrack category. czar 19:42, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Disasters in the Russian Empire by year
[edit]- Propose merging Category:1811 disasters in the Russian Empire (1) to Category:1811 in the Russian Empire, Category:1810s disasters in the Russian Empire, and Category:1811 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1812 disasters in the Russian Empire (1) to Category:1812 in the Russian Empire, Category:1810s disasters in the Russian Empire, and Category:1812 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1824 disasters in the Russian Empire (1) to Category:1824 in the Russian Empire, Category:1820s disasters in the Russian Empire, and Category:1824 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1830 disasters in the Russian Empire (2) to Category:1830 in the Russian Empire, Category:1830s disasters in the Russian Empire, and Category:1830 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1837 disasters in the Russian Empire (1) to Category:1837 in the Russian Empire, Category:1830s disasters in the Russian Empire, and Category:1837 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1840 disasters in the Russian Empire (1) to Category:1840 in the Russian Empire, Category:1840s disasters in the Russian Empire, and Category:1840 disasters in Asia
- Propose merging Category:1841 disasters in the Russian Empire (1) to Category:1841 in the Russian Empire, Category:1840s disasters in the Russian Empire, and Category:1841 disasters in Asia
- Propose merging Category:1859 disasters in the Russian Empire (1) to Category:1859 in the Russian Empire, Category:1850s disasters in the Russian Empire, Category:1859 disasters in Asia, and Category:1859 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1866 disasters in the Russian Empire (1) to Category:1866 in the Russian Empire, Category:1860s disasters in the Russian Empire, and Category:1866 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1867 disasters in the Russian Empire (1) to Category:1867 in the Russian Empire, Category:1860s disasters in the Russian Empire, and Category:1867 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1868 disasters in the Russian Empire (1) to Category:1868 in the Russian Empire, Category:1860s disasters in the Russian Empire, and Category:1868 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1882 disasters in the Russian Empire (1) to Category:1882 in the Russian Empire, Category:1880s disasters in the Russian Empire, and Category:1882 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1887 disasters in the Russian Empire (1) to Category:1887 in the Russian Empire, Category:1880s disasters in the Russian Empire, and Category:1887 disasters in Asia
- Propose merging Category:1888 disasters in the Russian Empire (1) to Category:1888 in the Russian Empire, Category:1880s disasters in the Russian Empire, and Category:1888 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1889 disasters in the Russian Empire (1) to Category:1889 in the Russian Empire, Category:1880s disasters in the Russian Empire, and Category:1889 disasters in Asia
- Propose merging Category:1896 disasters in the Russian Empire (1) to Category:1896 in the Russian Empire, Category:1890s disasters in the Russian Empire, and Category:1896 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1902 disasters in the Russian Empire (3) to Category:1902 in the Russian Empire, Category:1900s disasters in the Russian Empire, and Category:1902 disasters in Asia
- Propose merging Category:1904 disasters in the Russian Empire (1) to Category:1904 in the Russian Empire, Category:1900s disasters in the Russian Empire, and Category:1904 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1905 disasters in the Russian Empire (2) to Category:1905 in the Russian Empire, Category:1900s disasters in the Russian Empire, and Category:1905 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1906 disasters in the Russian Empire (1) to Category:1906 in the Russian Empire, Category:1900s disasters in the Russian Empire, and Category:1906 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1907 disasters in the Russian Empire (1) to Category:1907 in the Russian Empire, Category:1900s disasters in the Russian Empire, and Category:1907 disasters in Asia
- Propose merging Category:1911 disasters in the Russian Empire (2) to Category:1911 in the Russian Empire, Category:1910s disasters in the Russian Empire, and Category:1911 disasters in Asia
- Propose merging Category:1915 disasters in the Russian Empire (1) to Category:1915 in the Russian Empire, Category:1910s disasters in the Russian Empire, and Category:1915 disasters in Europe
- Propose deleting Category:Disasters in the Russian Empire by year (23)
- Nominator's rationale: Not enough content for a "by year" structure. Merge per WP:NARROW. I selectively chose Asia/Europe as a target based on the content in the categories. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:26, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:29, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Baseball venues in East Texas
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Baseball venues in East Texas to Category:Baseball venues in Texas
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCLOCATION User:Namiba 18:53, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Also there is no Category:Sports venues in East Texas. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:09, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:World Rugby Sevens Series venues
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCVENUE and recent discussions. User:Namiba 18:10, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:10, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:1801 disasters in the United Kingdom
[edit]- Propose merging Category:1801 disasters in the United Kingdom (1) to Category:1800s disasters in the United Kingdom and Category:1801 disasters
- Propose merging Category:1806 disasters in the United Kingdom (1) to Category:1800s disasters in the United Kingdom and Category:1806 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1807 disasters in the United Kingdom (3) to Category:1800s disasters in the United Kingdom and Category:1807 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1808 disasters in the United Kingdom (1) to Category:1800s disasters in the United Kingdom and Category:1808 disasters
- Propose merging Category:1812 disasters in the United Kingdom (1) to Category:1810s disasters in the United Kingdom and Category:1812 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1813 disasters in the United Kingdom (1) to Category:1810s disasters in the United Kingdom and Category:1813 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1814 disasters in the United Kingdom (2) to Category:1810s disasters in the United Kingdom and Category:1814 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1815 disasters in the United Kingdom (1) to Category:1810s disasters in the United Kingdom and Category:1815 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1821 disasters in the United Kingdom (2) to Category:1820s disasters in the United Kingdom and Category:1821 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1824 disasters in the United Kingdom (2) to Category:1820s disasters in the United Kingdom and Category:1824 disasters in Europe
- Nominator's rationale: Not enough content for a "by year" structure in these years. Merge per WP:NARROW
Note: Don't need to merge to C:Y in the UK since the articles are already in C:Y in England/Scotland/Wales. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:32, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- 1830 is not an obvious year to start year categories. It would be more intuitive to nominate the entire 19th century. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:15, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Maghreb stubs
[edit]- Propose deleting Category:Maghreb stubs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Maghreb stub templates (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting {{Maghreb-stub}}
- Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated stub category, not approved by WikiProject stub sorting. As always, stub categories are not free for just any user to create on a whim for just any topic of their choosing -- a stub category requires at least 60 articles in it before it can be created, so its creation has to be authorized by the WikiProject in order to ensure that there are actually enough articles to justify it. But this didn't go through the proper process, and was created solely to parent the Maghrebian people stubs category that has been listed below for similar reasons.
The template is completely unused, further, and there's no prospect of finding 60 articles for it -- virtually any possible use of this template would already be tagged with country-specific stub tags as it is, without needing this alongside that. Bearcat (talk) 16:21, 10 January 2025 (UTC)- The answer to this has been mentioned here. Riad Salih (talk) 16:25, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. In contrast to the people subcat (discussed further down on this page) I can't imagine there are that many topic stubs around about the medieval history of the Maghreb. For the time being they could sit in Category:African history stubs. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:35, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Disasters in Italy by year
[edit]- Propose merging Category:1805 disasters in Italy (1) to Category:1805 in Italy, Category:19th-century disasters in Italy, and Category:1805 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1857 disasters in Italy (1) to Category:1857 in Italy, Category:19th-century disasters in Italy, and Category:1857 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1873 disasters in Italy (1) to Category:1873 in Italy, Category:19th-century disasters in Italy, and Category:1873 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1883 disasters in Italy (1) to Category:1883 in Italy, Category:19th-century disasters in Italy, and Category:1883 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1887 disasters in Italy (1) to Category:1887 in Italy, Category:19th-century disasters in Italy, and Category:1887 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1905 disasters in Italy (1) to Category:1905 in Italy, Category:1900s disasters in Italy, and Category:1905 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1907 disasters in Italy (1) to Category:1907 in Italy, Category:1900s disasters in Italy, and Category:1907 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1908 disasters in Italy (1) to Category:1908 in Italy, Category:1900s disasters in Italy, and Category:1908 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1915 disasters in Italy (1) to Category:1915 in Italy, Category:1910s disasters in Italy, and Category:1915 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1920 disasters in Italy (1) to Category:1920 in Italy, Category:1920s disasters in Italy, and Category:1920 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1930 disasters in Italy (3) to Category:1930 in Italy, Category:1930s disasters in Italy, and Category:1930 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1936 disasters in Italy (1) to Category:1936 in Italy, Category:1930s disasters in Italy, and Category:1936 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1945 disasters in Italy (1) to Category:1945 in Italy, Category:1940s disasters in Italy, and Category:1945 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1954 disasters in Italy (1) to Category:1954 in Italy, Category:1950s disasters in Italy, and Category:1954 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1959 disasters in Italy (1) to Category:1959 in Italy, Category:1950s disasters in Italy, and Category:1959 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1961 disasters in Italy (1) to Category:1961 in Italy, Category:1960s disasters in Italy, and Category:1961 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1962 disasters in Italy (3) to Category:1962 in Italy, Category:1960s disasters in Italy, and Category:1962 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1968 disasters in Italy (1) to Category:1968 in Italy, Category:1960s disasters in Italy, and Category:1968 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1969 disasters in Italy (1) to Category:1969 in Italy, Category:1960s disasters in Italy, and Category:1969 disasters in Europe
- Propose deleting Category:1800s disasters in Italy (1)
- Propose deleting Category:1850s disasters in Italy (1)
- Propose deleting Category:1870s disasters in Italy (1)
- Propose deleting Category:1880s disasters in Italy (2)
- Nominator's rationale: Does not need a "by year" structure for these years. Merge/delete per WP:NARROW. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:16, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- 1970 is not an obvious year to start year categories. It would be more intuitive to nominate the entire 20th century. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:39, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Maghrebian people stubs
[edit]- Propose deleting Category:Maghrebian people stubs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting {{Maghrebis-bio-stub}}
- Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated stub category, not approved by WikiProject stub sorting. As always, stub categories are not free for just any user to create on a whim for just any topic of their choosing -- a stub category requires at least 60 articles in it before it can be created, so its creation has to be authorized by the WikiProject in order to ensure that there are actually enough articles to justify it.
But this didn't go through the proper process, and has only one article in it with little prospect of finding 59 others -- the Maghreb is a multi-country region in northwest Africa, meaning that almost any potential entries for this would already be tagged for a specific country ({{Algeria-bio-stub}}, {{Tunisia-bio-stub}}, {{Morocco-bio-stub}}, etc.) anyway. (There were two other people here when I first found it, but one was reclassifiable as Algeria and one wasn't a stub at all, and three still isn't 60 anyway.)
And even the template is of questionable necessity if it can't support its own dedicated category -- the one article here just describes the subject as Maghrebi without containing any more specific information about where in the Maghreb he came from (and thus can't be reclassified to a specific Maghreb country), so the template would be defensible if somebody's got a good idea for where else it can upfile him to. But I'm still bundling it here for the sake of discussion, and it can't have its own dedicated category without at least 59 more people than this. Bearcat (talk) 16:09, 10 January 2025 (UTC)- Hey @Bearcat
- The category can accommodate more than 60 articles easy. Its primary purpose is to address and prevent the non-editing conflicts between Algerian and Moroccan contributors regarding the term "مغربي" (Maghrebi), which is often mistranslated as "Moroccan."
- It is not historically accurate to use labels such as Algerian, Moroccan, or Tunisian for people who lived before the establishment of these states. Historically, the people of the Maghreb region traveled and settled and served in various cities across the region, making clarification in such cases impossible.
- The correct and most appropriate category for these individuals is Maghrebian people. Both Western and Arabic sources consistently use the terms "Maghrebi" or "North African" to describe individuals from this region, rather than the modern labels of Algerian, Moroccan, or Tunisian, which are relatively recent and impossible to adopt here.
- So I created this category is to ensure historical precision and avoid misclassification. There is no valid way to attribute people from the Maghreb to modern-day countries, especially for periods before the 17th century. This category provides an accurate and neutral way to represent those people. Riad Salih (talk) 16:23, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- It's not enough to simply assert that it "can accommodate" 60 articles it if it doesn't actually have 60 articles in it now — any category "can accommodate" any number of articles by definition, but that isn't in and of itself proof that we actually have enough articles for it. So it's not a question of what might be theoretically possible, it's a question of how much content is actually in the category now. And you're not free to just create new stub categories yourself without following the proper process, either.
So if you want the category to exist, then your job is to (a) follow the proper process of getting it approved by the WikiProject first, and (b) ensure that it already has at least 60 articles in it the moment I see it in the first place.Bearcat (talk) 16:27, 10 January 2025 (UTC)- They are often randomly labeled as Algerian, Moroccan, Tunisian, etc., depending on the conflicts between countries, each of which claims belonging to modern nations. A reclassification would certainly have more than 60 possible entries. The North African wikiprojects are rarely active to not say dead so Wikipedia:Be bold. Riad Salih (talk) 16:36, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- It's the stub sorting WikiProject that has to approve stub categories, not the North African wikiprojects, so the deadness of the North African wikiprojects isn't a legitimate reason to bypass proposing a stub category to the stub sorting wikiproject first. Bearcat (talk) 16:40, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- To be honest I dont think that the stub sorting WikiProject can effectively deal with this without involments from editors very knowledgeable about North Africa region or those directly concerned with the region. However, I would have greatly appreciated if you had initiated a discussion instead of directly proposing deletion or modifying the stubs in the articles. Given the long-standing edit wars surrounding these topics, I saw it both logical and necessary to focus on a clear categorization. Riad Salih (talk) 16:47, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- It's the stub sorting WikiProject that has to approve stub categories, not the North African wikiprojects, so the deadness of the North African wikiprojects isn't a legitimate reason to bypass proposing a stub category to the stub sorting wikiproject first. Bearcat (talk) 16:40, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- They are often randomly labeled as Algerian, Moroccan, Tunisian, etc., depending on the conflicts between countries, each of which claims belonging to modern nations. A reclassification would certainly have more than 60 possible entries. The North African wikiprojects are rarely active to not say dead so Wikipedia:Be bold. Riad Salih (talk) 16:36, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- It's not enough to simply assert that it "can accommodate" 60 articles it if it doesn't actually have 60 articles in it now — any category "can accommodate" any number of articles by definition, but that isn't in and of itself proof that we actually have enough articles for it. So it's not a question of what might be theoretically possible, it's a question of how much content is actually in the category now. And you're not free to just create new stub categories yourself without following the proper process, either.
- We might give User:Riad Salih a week to add more than 60 stubs to the category. They have a fair point about Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia not existing in the middle ages. But I would at least propose to rename the category to Category:Medieval Maghrebi people stubs in order to clarify the scope to editors who haven't seen this discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:27, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Disasters in Iceland by year
[edit]- Propose merging Category:2023 disasters in Iceland (1) to Category:2023 in Iceland and Category:2023 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:2024 disasters in Iceland (1) to Category:2024 in Iceland and Category:2024 disasters in Europe
- Propose deleting Category:2020s disasters in Iceland (2)
- Propose deleting Category:21st-century disasters in Iceland (3)
- Propose deleting Category:Disasters in Iceland by year (2)
- Propose deleting Category:Disasters in Iceland by decade (4)
- Propose deleting Category:Disasters in Iceland by century (2)
- Nominator's rationale: There is only 1 article in this tree. Merge/delete per WP:NARROW. The lone article is already in Category:Earthquakes in Iceland. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:57, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge/delete, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:41, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Disasters in Austria by year
[edit]- Propose merging Category:1954 disasters in Austria (2) to Category:1954 in Austria, Category:20th-century disasters in Austria, and Category:1954 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1964 disasters in Austria (1) to Category:1964 in Austria, Category:20th-century disasters in Austria, and Category:1964 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1975 disasters in Austria (1) to Category:20th-century disasters in Austria
- Propose merging Category:1985 disasters in Austria (1) to Category:1985 in Austria, Category:20th-century disasters in Austria, and Category:1985 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1998 disasters in Austria (1) to Category:1998 in Austria, Category:20th-century disasters in Austria, and Category:1998 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:1999 disasters in Austria (3) to Category:1999 in Austria, Category:20th-century disasters in Austria, and Category:1999 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:2000 disasters in Austria (2) to Category:2000 in Austria, Category:2000s disasters in Austria, and Category:2000 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:2007 disasters in Austria (1) to Category:2007 in Austria, Category:2000s disasters in Austria, and Category:2007 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:2009 disasters in Austria (1) to Category:2009 in Austria, Category:2000s disasters in Austria, and Category:2009 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:2015 disasters in Austria (1) to Category:2015 in Austria, Category:2010s disasters in Austria, and Category:2015 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:2016 disasters in Austria (1) to Category:2016 in Austria, Category:2010s disasters in Austria, and Category:2016 disasters in Europe
- Propose merging Category:2020 disasters in Austria (1) to Category:2020 in Austria and Category:2020s disasters in Austria
- Propose merging Category:2021 disasters in Austria (1) to Category:2021 in Austria and Category:2020s disasters in Austria
- Propose merging Category:2022 disasters in Austria (1) to Category:2022 in Austria, Category:2020s disasters in Austria, and Category:2022 disasters in Europe
- Propose deleting Category:1950s disasters in Austria (1)
- Propose deleting Category:1960s disasters in Austria (1)
- Propose deleting Category:1970s disasters in Austria (1)
- Propose deleting Category:1980s disasters in Austria (1)
- Propose deleting Category:1990s disasters in Austria (2)
- Propose deleting Category:Disasters in Austria by year (15)
- Nominator's rationale: Very few disasters by year. Merge up for better navigation. WP:NARROW.
Note: OPEC siege (1975 article) is already in Category:1975 murders in Austria and Category:Terrorist incidents in Europe in 1975. The 2020 and 2021 categories only contain COVID-19 pandemic in Austria and do not need to be merged to C:Y disasters in Europe. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:42, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge/delete, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:43, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Events about intersex
[edit]- Rename
- Option A Category:Events about intersex to Category:Intersex-related events aliging with Category:Intersex-related works. LIrala (talk) 04:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Option B Category:Events about intersex to Category:Intersex events aligning with Category:Gay events and Category:Transgender events.
- At speedy, User:LIrala proposed option A but I would rather go for option B. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:23, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Maritime disasters in Kent
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Maritime disasters in Kent to Category:Maritime incidents in England
- Nominator's rationale: Merge with parent category because I'm not sure if this has anything to do directly with Kent. The waters off Kent or near it but not with it. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:32, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose - category has a sufficient number of entries (including its subcat) that splitting off from the parent cat is justified. Mjroots (talk) 12:37, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Maybe rename to Category:Maritime disasters in the Strait of Dover.The water seems more relevant than the land. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:43, 10 January 2025 (UTC)- @Marcocapelle, it should, at least be renamed to "maritime incidents" because "maritime disaster" categories are limited to seas and oceans. But I also don't see any state or county specific categories for "maritime incidents" either.
- It can be renamed to Category:Shipwrecks in the Strait of Dover since that would match categories in Category:Shipwrecks of England. But "maritime disasters in Kent" is pretty much the only type of its category and I don't think all of these have anything specifically to do with Kent itself. Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:13, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah right that would match Category:Shipwrecks in the North Sea, Category:Shipwrecks of the River Thames etc. But now I notice that most articles in the Kent category are also in the beforementioned shipwrecks categories. So I agree that Category:Maritime disasters in Kent is redundant. Manually merge Category:Maritime disasters in Kent to Category:Maritime incidents in England, insofar articles aren't already deeper in the tree of Category:Maritime incidents in England. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:05, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:People from Dolní Bousov
[edit]- Propose merging Category:People from Dolní Bousov to Category:People from Mladá Boleslav District
- Nominator's rationale: Category with just one entry. Lost in Quebec (talk) 09:41, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 10:52, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:43, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Introductions by year
[edit]- Propose merging Category:1036 introductions (1 P) to Category:1036 beginnings and Category:1030s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1360 introductions (1 P) to Category:1360 beginnings and Category:1360s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1372 introductions (1 P) to Category:1372 beginnings and Category:1370s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1445 introductions (1 P) to Category:1445 beginnings and Category:1440s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1465 introductions (1 P) to Category:1465 beginnings and Category:1460s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1471 introductions (1 P) to Category:1471 beginnings and Category:1470s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1472 introductions (1 P) to Category:1472 beginnings and Category:1470s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1489 introductions (1 P) to Category:1489 beginnings and Category:1480s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1495 introductions (1 P) to Category:1495 beginnings and Category:1490s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1498 introductions (1 P) to Category:1498 beginnings and Category:1490s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1502 introductions (1 P) to Category:1502 beginnings and Category:1500s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1544 introductions (1 P) to Category:1544 beginnings and Category:1540s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1546 introductions (1 P) to Category:1546 beginnings and Category:1540s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1551 introductions (1 P) to Category:1551 beginnings and Category:1550s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1553 introductions (1 P) to Category:1553 beginnings and Category:1550s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1557 introductions (2 P) to Category:1557 beginnings and Category:1550s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1577 introductions (1 P) to Category:1577 beginnings and Category:1570s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1590 introductions (2 C) to Category:1590 beginnings
- Propose merging Category:1596 introductions (1 C) to Category:1596 beginnings
- Propose merging Category:1597 introductions (1 C) to Category:1597 beginnings
- Propose merging Category:1599 introductions (1 C, 2 P) to Category:1599 beginnings and Category:1590s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1600 introductions (1 C) to Category:1600 beginnings
- Propose merging Category:1602 introductions (1 C) to Category:1602 beginnings
- Propose merging Category:1603 introductions (1 C) to Category:1603 beginnings
- Propose merging Category:1605 introductions (1 C, 1 P) to Category:1605 beginnings and Category:1600s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1607 introductions (1 P) to Category:1607 beginnings and Category:1600s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1610 introductions (1 P) to Category:1610 beginnings and Category:1610s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1611 introductions (1 C, 1 P) to Category:1611 beginnings and Category:1610s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1615 introductions (1 C, 2 P) to Category:1615 beginnings and Category:1610s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1620 introductions (1 C, 1 P) to Category:1620 beginnings and Category:1620s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1622 introductions (1 P) to Category:1622 beginnings and Category:1620s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1636 introductions (1 P) to Category:1636 beginnings and Category:1630s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1637 introductions (2 C, 2 P) to Category:1637 beginnings and Category:1630s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1642 introductions (3 P) to Category:1642 beginnings and Category:1640s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1644 introductions (1 C) to Category:1644 beginnings
- Propose merging Category:1649 introductions (1 P) to Category:1649 beginnings and Category:1640s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1662 introductions (1 C, 1 P) to Category:1662 beginnings and Category:1660s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1663 introductions (2 C, 3 P) to Category:1663 beginnings and Category:1660s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1664 introductions (2 C) to Category:1664 beginnings
- Propose merging Category:1667 introductions (1 P) to Category:1667 beginnings and Category:1660s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1676 introductions (1 C) to Category:1676 beginnings
- Propose merging Category:1682 introductions (1 P) to Category:1682 beginnings and Category:1680s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1686 introductions (1 P) to Category:1686 beginnings and Category:1680s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1687 introductions (1 C, 1 P) to Category:1687 beginnings and Category:1680s introductions
- Propose merging Category:1697 introductions (1 C) to Category:1697 beginnings
- Nominator's rationale: merge, isolated mostly single-article categories, unhelpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:23, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge at least the ones without subcategories. You gatta be careful with the subcategories, since some are big enough on their own — Category:Literary characters introduced in 1599, for example, contains 7 pages. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 10:33, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- I am not currently planning to nominate Category:Literary characters introduced in 1599. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:45, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge all per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:14, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge at least the ones without subcategories. You gatta be careful with the subcategories, since some are big enough on their own — Category:Literary characters introduced in 1599, for example, contains 7 pages. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 10:33, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Ante-Nicene Christian martyrs
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Ante-Nicene Christian martyrs to Category:Ancient Christian martyrs
- Nominator's rationale: per parent Category:Ancient Christian saints and Category:Ancient Christians. Also, the category tree contains articles well beyond the First Council of Nicaea. For example Abda and Abdisho died in 376. After the rename, Category:5th-century Christian martyrs can be added as a subcategory too. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:58, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: isn't there a distinct purpose in a category for Christians martyred prior to the widespread adoption of Christianity in the Roman Empire? I realize that the date for this is a bit fuzzy, but the Council of Nicaea seems as reasonable a date as any. Those martyred afterward would seem to have been martyred for different reasons—perhaps a case could be made for including those martyred by Romans who had yet to convert, though Abda and Abdisho apparently were martyred for a different reason and beyond Roman borders, so they and some others could probably be removed from this category.
- Perhaps the solution could be a category titled "Ancient Christian martyrs" with a subcategory for Ante-Nicene martyrs, and which would separately include late Roman (or other) martyrs such as Abda and Abdisho. That would simply be a revision to the "martyr tree", so to speak. I note that I come at this from a non-Christian perspective; I am not particularly fond of the concept of martyrdom, but it is a valid topic in religious history, and it seems to make sense to distinguish between those who were martyred due to anti-Christian persecution by Romans and those martyred post-persecution elsewhere (*wonders if there are Post-Nicene pagan martyrs*). If this category is not preserved, then that distinction would be lost, and probably not to the benefit of the reader. P Aculeius (talk) 11:52, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- There are enough articles just mentioning a death in the 4th century without specifying whether it was before or after 325, so the distinction isn't clear anyway. Besides Christianity became an accepted religion quite a few years before Nicaea. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:52, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Before the reign of Constantine (312–337) Christianity was widely persecuted, so there would have been many Christians martyred within the Roman empire. Though various dates from 311 (edict of Serdica) to 337 (death, and alleged deathbed conversion of Constantine, who may or may not have adopted Christianity informally as early as 312) could be used, the council of Nicaea, which he convened in 325, is a significant date in establishing a degree of uniformity for Christian worship, and probably did more to promote its acceptance than dubious stories about the Battle of the Milvian Bridge. After this it would be rare for Christians to be martyred within the Roman Empire, though of course they could be anywhere else that Christianity wasn't yet tolerated or adopted, and would continue to be for centuries. So it makes good sense to distinguish martyrs before 325 and after—or at least martyrs due to Roman persecution, which probably did not end all at once as soon as some decree was issued at Rome, though it probably had by the end of Constantine's reign—from later martyrs elsewhere. P Aculeius (talk) 17:01, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- There are enough articles just mentioning a death in the 4th century without specifying whether it was before or after 325, so the distinction isn't clear anyway. Besides Christianity became an accepted religion quite a few years before Nicaea. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:52, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Vaporware video games
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: There is a variety of issues that I have with this category: First of all, someone has removed titles that have been released a couple months back like Team Fortress 2 or Duke Nukem Forever. Also, vaporware is only a slang term for software that is takes very long to make and is often simply left abandoned (this may cause confusion with the similar term abandonware). The status of individual games in this category also varies: some are currently in active development and have not confirmed to be cancelled, some are just simply officially cancelled, while others are unreleased unknowingly cancelled. This could actually make for a new Unreleased video games category; which would only include video games that are unreleased yet not known to be officially cancelled. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 04:17, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep If List of media notable for being in development hell passes WP:LISTN, then this category is defining beyond a shadow of a doubt. Also it is only for games that the media describes as being vaporware, not ones that users decide are. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:17, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, not a defining characteristic. Whether or not the term "vaporware" is used in media is a matter of mere coincidence. The list suffices. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:59, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Pretty much a defining characteristic for games that are notable enough to have their own articles. The name is debatable. Solidest (talk) 15:15, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Future dialects
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Highly dubious categorization; no "catmain" and I could not find any scholarly sources for the sublect. Not to say that not a single item is about a dialect, but about a work of fiction in which allegedly a new dialect is introduced. --Altenmann >talk 03:54, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. (If kept, at least rename to Category:Fictional dialects.) Marcocapelle (talk) 04:02, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete Category:Books written in fictional dialects seems too similar. Which entries in this category should be there, but are not already? The only item that is a fictional element is Belter Creole, which is a creole language and is already in Category:Fictional languages. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 10:39, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Guancha
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Guancha to Category:Clathrina
- Nominator's rationale: According to WoRMS, Guancha has been synonymized with Clathrina. jlwoodwa (talk) 03:16, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Communities named for Preston Brooks
[edit]- Propose Deleting Category:Communities named for Preston Brooks
- Nominator's rationale: WP:OCASSOC, WP:SHAREDNAME, & WP:NONDEFINING
- Preston Brook really had nothing to do with these 3 towns other than them being later named in his honor. While it's astonishing that communities are still named after him, it's not defining. The biography article mentions the 3 towns, and the town articles mention him, should any reader be interested in this naming topic. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:01, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:03, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Travelers Protective Association of America
[edit]- Propose Deleting Category:Travelers Protective Association of America
- Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROWCAT, WP:OCASSOC, & WP:MFN
- The only articles in this category are Travelers Protective Association of America and First Christian Church (Clinton, Kentucky). The latter is included because members of the TPAA donated a stained glass window. (No objection to recreating later should more content emerge.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:01, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete for now per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:04, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Electronics industry in the Philippines
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Contains only a navbox, whose only contents are companies. Abandoned by its creator, and initially had itself as a subcategory. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:37, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete for now, Category:Electronics companies of the Philippines suffices. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:07, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:IAC (company)
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:IAC (company) to Category:IAC Inc.
- Propose renaming Category:IAC (company) people to Category:IAC Inc. people
- Nominator's rationale: Rename, main article has been at IAC Inc. for over a year. UnitedStatesian (talk) 02:30, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Rename per WP:C2D. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:08, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:International baseball competitions in Europe by year
[edit]- Propose merging Category:International baseball competitions in Europe by year (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:International baseball competitions in Europe
- Propose deleting Category:European baseball by year (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Nothing about these categories is "by year". Completely redundant categories that are not needed. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:28, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge/delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:33, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge/Delete These categories certainly sound reasonable but, when you click on them, they're not grouping by year. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:22, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge/delete per nom. The second category contains competitions, the content should be in the tree of Category:Baseball competitions in Europe by country. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:13, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Comment as the creator, this was an attempt to unclog the Category:International baseball competitions in Europe, except I had started from the wrong end as the real problem was the non diffusing inclusion within there and its subcategories, sometimes by three levels. I ran out of time to fix the created categories.
- An Alternate suggestion would be to rename as "Seasons in X" rather than "X per Year", since that is what essentially end up being categorized, rather than per initially intentioned names. Respublik (talk) 07:35, 10 January 2025 (UTC)